Custom Ludwigs

Discussion in 'General' started by Bobby, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. Bobby

    Bobby Very well Known Member

    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    CT
    I probably should just ask a Ludwig dealer or contact Ludwig directly, but someone here will probably know...

    Will Ludwig make a custom size drum? I recently bought a 14x20, 8x12, 14x14 kit and would like to add a 12x18 jazzette BD which I know isnt a stock size anymore.

    Anyone know?
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Location:
    Northern Indiana
    Bobby said:
    I probably should just ask a Ludwig dealer or contact Ludwig directly, but someone here will probably know...

    Will Ludwig make a custom size drum? I recently bought a 14x20, 8x12, 14x14 kit and would like to add a 12x18 jazzette BD which I know isnt a stock size anymore.

    Anyone know?


    Bobby,
    I'm sorry but unfortunately we aren't set up to make a 12x18". We do offer a 14x18" though if that would work.

    Thanks,

    Bob
     
  3. Bobby

    Bobby Very well Known Member

    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    CT
    Oh Well..Thanks for the reply Robert.
     
  4. Sonorlite

    Sonorlite Forgive him for he knows not what he does.

    Messages:
    5,139
    Likes Received:
    273
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Location:
    Hard to Say
    Robert said:
    Bobby,
    I'm sorry but unfortunately we aren't set up to make a 12x18". We do offer a 14x18" though if that would work.

    Thanks,

    Bob


    Hi Robert. would a customer be able to order a 14x18", but only have one side of the shell Drilled for lugs - which would leave the customer the option of having that other side cut down & drilled by a custom builder, and still end up with what they want. Or is that out of the question - thanks for your time.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Location:
    Northern Indiana
    Sonorlite said:
    Robert said:
    Bobby,
    I'm sorry but unfortunately we aren't set up to make a 12x18". We do offer a 14x18" though if that would work.

    Thanks,

    Bob


    Hi Robert. would a customer be able to order a 14x18", but only have one side of the shell Drilled for lugs - which would leave the customer the option of having that other side cut down & drilled by a custom builder, and still end up with what they want. Or is that out of the question - thanks for your time.

    I'm sorry but that is something the factory just doesn't do. There are a lot of logistics involved, quite a bit of it being system related issues. We try to be as custom as possible, but there are some things that simply aren't feasible for one reason or several others. Thanks all for understanding.

    Bob
     
  6. lossforgain

    lossforgain Team DFO Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    12,714
    Likes Received:
    63
    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2007
    Location:
    Lancaster, PA
    If I were a decision maker at Ludwig, I wouldn't let that happen either, for a couple of reasons.
    1. Ludwig would essentially be sending out a half-finished drum. That would go against the company's quality control values.
    2. The "custom builder of choice" might not do the work up to Ludwig's standards. This could possibly damage Ludwig's reputation with people who see the end result, AND/OR the product might be intentionally/unintentionally misrepresented in the future as a Ludwig offering.
     
  7. jrfrond

    jrfrond DFO Master

    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    93
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    Oceanside, New York
    If Ludwig won't do it, I could clone one for you, as long as it is a finish I can reproduce if it is woodgrain, or a wrap I can obtain. You'd need to purchase the hardware from Jack Lawton, and I would custom-order a maple/poplar shell from Keller in that size.
     
  8. LizH

    LizH DFO Master

    Messages:
    4,170
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    usa
    I understand why Ludwig doesn't do it, but it's the reason I ended up custom ordering a kit from elsewhere because I needed specific sizes. When I unload that much $ on a kit, I want EXACTLY what I want.

    That said, I'm currently saving up my pennies for an exotic legacy kit. :D
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Location:
    Northern Indiana
    lossforgain said:
    If I were a decision maker at Ludwig, I wouldn't let that happen either, for a couple of reasons.
    1. Ludwig would essentially be sending out a half-finished drum. That would go against the company's quality control values.
    2. The "custom builder of choice" might not do the work up to Ludwig's standards. This could possibly damage Ludwig's reputation with people who see the end result, AND/OR the product might be intentionally/unintentionally misrepresented in the future as a Ludwig offering.


    Both being totally legitimate reasons and part of the equation.

    Bob
     
  10. Sonorlite

    Sonorlite Forgive him for he knows not what he does.

    Messages:
    5,139
    Likes Received:
    273
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Location:
    Hard to Say
    lossforgain said:
    If I were a decision maker at Ludwig, I wouldn't let that happen either, for a couple of reasons.
    1. Ludwig would essentially be sending out a half-finished drum. That would go against the company's quality control values.


    They could send it out as a 'Concert (bass drum) Tom', or a 'Gong' drum. They're Finished - but still, half a drum... :lol:


    Only kidding Robert ! - and thank you for your reply. :wink:
     
  11. blueshadow

    blueshadow Just Shuffling along Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    12,321
    Likes Received:
    303
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    North of Austin, Texas
    might be able to cut a 16x18 kick down to 12x18. I couldn't see cutting a new drum though... I'm anxiously waiting for my 14x18 "Jazzette" bass drum!
     
  12. Bobby

    Bobby Very well Known Member

    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    CT
    Thanks everyone for the suggestions/replies. I'll probably just get the 14x18 stock drum. If you have 12 or 14 inches..how much of a difference is 2 mere inches? :wink:
     
  13. jrfrond

    jrfrond DFO Master

    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    93
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    Oceanside, New York
    Bobby said:
    Thanks everyone for the suggestions/replies. I'll probably just get the 14x18 stock drum. If you have 12 or 14 inches..how much of a difference is 2 mere inches? :wink:


    Depends on the venue. :lol: :wink:
     
  14. jrfrond

    jrfrond DFO Master

    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    93
    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2005
    Location:
    Oceanside, New York
    As Robert pointed out, there is a host of internal logistical reasons that Ludwig cannot do this, while a private builder can. At the very least, they would need to create a separate SKU# for the item. Then the shell would need to be custom-cut, and the indexed drilling machines would need to be reprogrammed to drill for a 12" depth, instead of the normal 14". This would all back-up the normal production flow tremendously.
     
  15. Sonorlite

    Sonorlite Forgive him for he knows not what he does.

    Messages:
    5,139
    Likes Received:
    273
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2006
    Location:
    Hard to Say
    That's what i thought would be the issue, Jr --- I just wondered if they could Pull the drill bits out of one end of the machine for a coupla' minutes. :D ;)
     
  16. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2008
    Location:
    Northern Indiana
    jrfrond said:
    As Robert pointed out, there is a host of internal logistical reasons that Ludwig cannot do this, while a private builder can. At the very least, they would need to create a separate SKU# for the item. Then the shell would need to be custom-cut, and the indexed drilling machines would need to be reprogrammed to drill for a 12" depth, instead of the normal 14". This would all back-up the normal production flow tremendously.


    Right on the money JR. Thanks very much.

    Bob
     

Share This Page