Darwin help

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  1. Salem street drums

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    found a set for sale locally ( I have not seen the kit in person ). The seller is saying these are jasper shells? I was under the impression that all of these shells were fiberglass. I’m not real familiar with Darwin’s......any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Darwin Drums bought out Corder Drums, which bought out Fibes Drums. Fibes drums were fiberglass, Corder drums switched over to wood sheels (jasper) with Fibes hardware, lugs, and parts. Darwin bought out Corder, and continued using Fibes lugs and hardware with jasper shells, but with Pearl-style tome mounts instead.
    I had a Corder kit and it was a stellar drum set. Darwin drums are nice as well, and if you can get it for a good deal, I would jump on that. They are in fact jasper shells.
     
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    What the poster said above is true. I’ve had all three drum brands. The set of Darwin drums that I had sounded great. I recall the bass drum being Keller and the toms being Jasper. One set of Corder drums that I had was actually Keller and the other was Jasper.
     
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    And there you have it: Darwin’s Evolution.
     
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    F6247A98-AB7A-4779-A762-9EFCE375D6A7.jpeg I went and picked them up today. Rewraped....but they did a good job.
     
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    Very nice! I remember seeing ads for Darwin drums in Modern Drummer in the early '90s (late '80s?). They were the first company I ever saw to use the sliding bass drum tom mount (years before DW, Ayotte, Tama).

    Darwin blue.jpg
     
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    That rewrap job looks great! Reminds me of DW stuff. If your kit has thin, 6-ply shells, then you've got Jasper. Those drums sing.

    Corder bought out Fibes in 1979. Corder ceased to be in the late 80's, and Darwin was around through a good portion of the 90's. They then ended production and the Fibes name was brought back and those new Fibes were built in Austin, TX. Those Austin Fibes drums are masterpieces.

    This is the Corder kit I had. I was in a tough place and had to let them go, but damn do I regret that.
     

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    I hope I got the real deal. It is definitely 6 ply. This is the only one I’ve seen with a “virgin” bass drum. Also, most of their drums were “square”. I seller told me he bought it new and rewraped it himself. It has to be one of the last ones they built.
     
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    The sliding rail was actually designed and patented by Jim Corder back in the day.
    So Corder was the first to use it.
    DW now sells it.
     
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    Good info! Makes sense, with the whole Darwin/Corder/Fibes relationship. I just remember an old Darwin ad, with the mount as a focal point, and being amazed by it (I was young), haha. Then seeing DW a few years later touting it like they just reinvented the wheel, and thinking "wow, what a blatant rip-off".
     
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    Three bits of info...1) Corder used both Jasper and Keller. Most kits were keller. Jasper would let them buy less (shorter tubes?) so a lot of Corder's stuff was used in marching drums. Darwin (if I recall) also had kits with tube lugs...the shells were acousticon (remo's cardboard shell) 3) Corder was making a clear acrylic shell before Ludwig. The elder corder had patented an insert that let the shell color change and tried to sell it to Ludwig...Ludwig saw what the patent was on and didn't use Jim's idea. I did own a few clear Corder badged acrylics that were not Fibes hand me downs (they did have Fibes lugs though...).
     

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