Fun find of the day: Badge Forgery Time!

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  1. squidart

    squidart Well-Known Member

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    IMG_7421.JPG IMG_7422.JPG I believe this is the Pearl Thunder King outfit as shown in the 68 catalog although the oval badges and clip tom mount pre-date that one. Any ideas on the date?
    Unfortunately no matching snare.
     
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    Nice! Did it come with the "tom cat?"
     
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    Lol! Nah. I keep a couple of those around to help change heads (that's the action shot right there) and do QC on bass drum ports.
     
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    Nice find! There was a chrome snare with that badge on Ebay recently.
     
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    That would work! And I got a nice surprise after cracking open the bass drum. Phenolic shells. I was under the impression that those were on the President line only so it's head scratching time again.
     
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    Tempting... but kind of pricey. I'll cross digits and hope for a matching to stroll along some day. :) Thanks!
     
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    Those are really cool! I'm a big Pearl fan, but most of my knowledge is about their 1980s offerings. I don't know the exact date on those, but from the badges and a bit of online searching I would guess those are probably from the early to mid '60s. They used a similar oval badge with the red "P" in the '50s, but the letters were in print instead of script. Next came the oval badge you have with the red "P" and script letters. I think they used those through the early to mid '60s, and then they switched to the gold and silver badges in the later '60s similar to the old Rogers script badges. Here are some pics of the different styles starting with the '50s oval badge.

    50sPearl.jpg 60sPearl.jpg 60s Pearl.jpg 60s Pearl2.jpg
     
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    Found this similar looking kit online, but unfortunately the only info about it is what's printed in the bottom right corner of the pic. I have no idea on the discovery of the shells being phenolic. A quick search on that subject brought me to this article that you may find interesting though! I hope someone with some definitive knowledge of '60s Pearls chimes in as I'd love to learn more about their older stuff. Here's the link to the article on the phenolic shells, and the pic of the similar kit I found.

    http://www.tbrucewittet.com/2011/04...-60s-japanese-pearl-drums-were-cheap-in-fact/

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    Yup. That's a dead ringer for this kit. That article is interesting and these shells are spot-on to these. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these composite shells may have been experimental lead-ups to the President line. And why waste shells when business is booming? US companies used up old shells and parts during transitional periods so it makes economic sense. Thanks for the info Austin! Now to get these puppies up and running...
     
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    Nice find! Those will look great once you get them all cleaned up.
     
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    I'm happy I could help, and excited to see how they come out! According to that article they should sound killer all cleaned up with some decent heads on them! After reading that I'll definitely be looking a little closer at any '60s MIJ stencil kits I happen to come across in the future. Learn something new every day! I actually really like that wrap as well. Are you planning to keep them, or waiting to see how they turn out before deciding?
     
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    I have this terrible habit of everything being keepers lately. The "Galaxy" wrap aka "Blue Grain Pearl" is a definite winner. Unless they sound like absolute poop these will be yet more boat anchors to burdon my kids with. :)
     
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    Getting close! Missing the cymbal L-arm. The 12x8 needs some edge work and I could use replacement 20" chrome hoops as these have a bunch of rust. Imagine that. Rust in western Washington state...

    Oh and almost forgot: I'm attempting to make repro badges for 2 of them. Will post the results. Fingers crossed.
     
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    IMG_7475.JPG IMG_7476.JPG IMG_7477.JPG So far my evil plan for repro badges is working. I scanned the 2 buggered up aluminum badges and brought them into Adobe Illustrator as a guide. I then recreated the art in vector format.
    Then I purchased some foil address labels for inkjet printers. So far, so good. Now to try clear coating them and also to cover another set with clear packing tape. We'll see which turns out best. Then it's time to whip out the x-acto knife!
     
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    Still need a couple %#*~! 20" chrome hoops... Just found em! Yippee!
     
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    IMG_7478.JPG So I ended up going with poor man's lamination (aka packing tape) for better waterproofing and a bit more shine. I'm happy with the results.
     
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    IMG_7479.JPG Time to play Spot the Forgery. Ok not difficult but this is good enough for 2 feet away.
     
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    Looks great, very nice creativity on your part..................
     
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