Gretsch 18" bass drum on Reverb

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  1. komodobob

    komodobob DFO Master

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    So does this look to be a converted floor tom? It has a standard tom muffler, rather than the Pratt that you would find on a bass drum. Also, with no silver sealer paint inside, it makes me kind of suspicious.
    If it is a genuine Gretsch 18" bass drum, at that price, it's a steal.

    https://reverb.com/item/17974190-gretsch-18x14-1970-gold-sparkle
     
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  2. K.O.

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    If it was converted it was a radical process. They would have had to cut down the depth and redrill it for eight lugs then rewrap to hide all that. Pretty sure you could order a standard muffler in place of the Pratt unit if you preferred ( or get no muffler at all). That or retrofit one in place of the Pratt.
     
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    Know little about Gretsch, but is the vent hole / badge in the correct position being off center?
     
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    The shell has reinforcement rings, grommet looks replaced and not even crimped on the inside. the 2 holes on the bottom look like they're from a marching harness.
     
  5. komodobob

    komodobob DFO Master

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    Yes, yes and yes. And with the chocolate brown interior, I'm beginning to think this is a Slingerland shell.
     
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    Well that's what I get for looking at tiny photos on my phone. Yeah definitely something fishy there.
     
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    That would be my guess as well. It probably sounds great, but obviously not Gretsch and you can get a genuine Slingerland 14x18 for less than that.
     
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    Slingerland shell. Now, the fact that's it's (hopefully) a good shell outfitted with Gretsch hardware makes it a very good player's candidate. The price might be too high for what it's advertised as but not too far off if someone had to build one for themselves.

    At least the seller is reasonable in entertaining offers.
     
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    Funny too is they installed a 1950s era snare/tom muffler in lieu of the 'Pratt' bass drum muffling system.
    I've done that in the past myself much better results than the Pratt system.
     
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    File that under “Don’t know what it ‘tis, but I do know what it ‘taint”

    There are Gretsch shells w/rerings, and ‘taint one of those either.

    I’d have guessed it started as an 18x12 marching tenor. I know Ludwig lugs are same spacing as Gretsch, but Ludwig marchers usually have the muffler same panel as the badge and small lugs, so that with the choco milk-looking interior and Slingy guys saying Slingy, I won’t argue with that.

    There’s not a sniff test in the world this drum passes, that’s for sure.

    What is the spacing on a large Slingerland lug relative to Luddy/Gretsch, anyway?
     
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    Is it a 12x18. Could be a marching tenor with the holes for the harness but what kind of harness uses that hole pattern.
     
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    DanC "Get in, sit down, shut up, hold on"

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    The listing says it's a 14x18, which suggests it started out as a bass.
    Would someone take a Slingerland 18" bass and convert it to a Gretsch 18" bass?
    Since it would be worth a whole lot more, I guess so.
    Drum looks like it was rewrapped. Anyone else think so?

    That $750 price suggests to me that he might know the drum is 'wrong'.
     
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    could've started life as a beat up 70s slingy bass drum or marcher. it might be re-wrapped but slingy used std sparkle wrap so could be orig.
     
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    The wrap looks like the crushed glass sparkle version to me? Slingerland's gold sparkle was the confetti style.
     
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    Yeah? I thought they too used the standard sparkle wrap (ala Gretsch, Ludwig) at some point in time.
     
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    Check his feedback, he’s sold a few of these. Seller is local to me, I was considering seeing if he is up for me checking it out. Last time I did that for “research” though I ended up coming home with a new kit unexpectedly...
     
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    They used both crushed glass and confetti styles in their sparkles depending on the color though most were the glass style. Gold sparkle was crushed glass up until the late 50s, then they switched to confetti. Chocolate milk interior suggests 66-70ish, so it would have been the confetti style.
     
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    Reverb ad is gone already.
     
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    You know him Stretch?
     
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    I clicked the link and got this so maybe the seller wised up (I wondered why the interior was chocolate and not grey???):

    "Hmmm, we can't find any results for "Slingerland 18x14"" Gear."
     

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