Hardware weights spreadsheet

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  1. hefty

    hefty DFO Master

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    Recently I weighed all of my pieces of hardware and entered the info into a spreadsheet. I know this has been done before, but other more comprehensive lists like this were somewhat suspect. I'd like to make a new one.... So, if you're so inclined, send along your own weights and we can build a new, comprehensive list.

    Only two rules: (1) you weigh the hardware yourself, on a reliable scale. No hearsay or borrowing from previous lists. And (2) give me the brand and model number. Oh and weights in lbs preferred...

    Below is the complete list so far, including data that people have sent me:

    Cymbal stands weight (lbs)

    [SIZE=11.8181819915771px]Stewart (Japanese) straight 1.9[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=11.8181819915771px]DW 6710UL 2.9[/SIZE]
    Canopus flat-based straight CCS-1f 3.1
    Slingerland 33 Flush Base 3.2
    TAMA HC52F flat-based straight 3.3

    Yamaha CS3 3.3
    Ludwig 60's 1400 3.8

    DCP flat-based 4.0

    Buck Rogers 4.5

    Sakae CS20F flat-based straight 4.5
    Pearl C150S straight 4.8

    Ludwig Atlas Classic flat based straight LAC25CS 5.2

    DW 6710 flat-based straight 5.3
    Yamaha CS650A straight 5.4

    Pearl BC150S boom 5.4


    Gibraltar 8710 flat-based straight 5.6
    Ludwig 70's Atlas 5.7
    Slingerland 66 Buddy Rich 5.7
    DW 6700 flat-based boom 5.8
    Gibraltar JZ straight 5.9
    Gibraltar 8709 flat-based boom 6.0
    Ludwig Atlas Classic flat based boom LAC35BCS 6.1
    Sakae SCS200S single braced straight 7.1
    Mapex 550 straight 8.0
    Yamaha CS755 boom 8.1

    Tama HC92 Titan Stilt Straight 9.5
    Mapex 550 boom 9.6


    Pearl BC900 Boom 10.0
    DW 9710 Straight 10.4

    Tama HC73BWN Roadpro Boom 10.6

    Tama HC83BW Roadpro Boom 11.1
    Tama HC93B Titan Stilt Boom 11.3


    DW 9700 with 912s Short boom arms 12.2

    DW 9710 Straight with DWSM991 Tom holder 12.6
    Tama HC94B Titan Stilt Boom with counterweight 13.5
    Tama HC104TB Titan Stilt Boom with counterweight 14.4
    Pearl BC2030 Boom with counterweight 15.4

    Hi-Hat Stands

    Gretsch 4845 4.0
    Rogers Swivomatic 4.5
    Slingerland 804 Flush Base 4.8

    Yamaha HHS3 4.8
    Premier Late 60's Model 289 flat-based 4.9

    Ludwig 60's 1123-1 5.0
    DW 6500UL 5.1
    Sakae HS-20F 5.1

    Tama HH55F 5.1
    Canopus flat-based CHS-1 6.2
    Pearl H150S 6.3

    ChromaCast Retro Series flat bottom hi-hat 6.6

    DW 6500 6.8
    Gibraltar 4607 6.8
    Yamaha HS650A 6.8
    Ludwig Atlas Classic flat based LAC16HH 6.9

    Gibraltar 5607 7.2
    Tama HH75 Single-braced Lever Glide 7.8

    Gibraltar 8707 flat-based 7.8
    Yamaha HS740A 8.0
    Gibraltar JZ 8.3
    Slingerland 806 Dynamo 8.7

    Sakae HS200S 9.1

    Mapex 550 9.6

    Tama HH905N Iron Cobra 11.4
    DW 5500TD 11.5



    Mapex HF1000 Falcon 12.1
    Pearl H2000 13.6



    Thrones

    Tama HT25 7.5
    Yamaha DS750 7.7


    Pearl D790 8.1
    Tama HT85 8.6

    Gibraltar 7500 series 9.4
    Yamaha #QK1 10.4
    Yamaha DS840 11.5
    Tama First Chair HT430N 12.3
    Tama HT750C Hydraulic First Chair 13.2
    Canopus Hybrid-Throne II 13.4

    Pork Pie Round Top with Screw Base 13.6
    Pork Pie Moto/Big Boy 14.0

    Roc-n-Soc Hydraulic 14.5
    Roc-n-Soc Nitro saddle top with tall base 14.9


    Snare Stands

    DW 6300UL 2.5
    Tama HS50S 3.1

    Yamaha SS3 3.3
    Slingerland 802 Flush Base 3.7

    Ludwig 60's 1363 3.9
    Pearl S-830 4.8
    Canopus flat-based CSS-2F 5.1
    Pearl S150S 5.2

    Ludwig 70's Atlas 5.4
    ChromaCast Retro Series flat bottom 5.5
    Yamaha SS740A 5.7
    Gibraltar JZ 5.7
    Gibraltar 8706 flat-based 5.7
    DW 6300 5.9

    Sakae SS200S single-braced 6.2
    DW 7000 6.3

    Slingerland 1382 Rocket 6.3

    Gibraltar 8713UA Ultra Adjust 6.5

    Ludwig Atlas Classic flat based LAC21SS 6.6
    Mapex 550 6.6

    Pearl S930 7.3
    Pearl S1000 8.7
    DW 9300 10.9


    Pedals
    Camco by Tama chain drive 2.8
    Sonor SP273 Pedal (no base plate) 3.3
    Pearl Demon Direct Drive Single Pedal 4.6
    DW-9000 XF 5.3
    Trick Pro1-V Bigfoot 5.5
     
  2. devinw

    devinw DFO Veteran

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    Can you add my Rock-and-sock Throne to list as "FUCKING HEAVY"?

    J/k I will actually weigh it and add.
     
  3. drumhead

    drumhead Jer-ry! Jer-ry!

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    1983 Tama Titan telescoping boom stand with counter weight - 212 lbs.
     
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  4. mlayton

    mlayton Night Creature

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    very neat! better hope zenstat doesn't see all this data and specs....he wont be able to sleep for days!
    :kermit:
    mike
     
  5. hefty

    hefty DFO Master

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    Could be neat anyway, if people send me some data!

    Sorry drumhead, the 212 lb number broke my spreadsheet. :happy11:
     
  6. davezedlee

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    careful what you ask for

    i have about 10 kits of various brands

    this could take a while....
     
  7. hefty

    hefty DFO Master

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    Ha! Yeah, I may not have known what I signed up for. I should say that I figured this would be biased towards lighter stuff. At some point heavy hardware is just "damned heavy."
     
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    davezedlee DFO Veteran

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    i DO have some 80s Tama Titan stands, and the 212 Lbs quoted is pretty close!
     
  9. hefty

    hefty DFO Master

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    No one?
     
  10. blueshadow

    blueshadow Just Shuffling along Staff Member Moderator

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    I think this is a great idea. Would be really cool if we could have a section maybe for stuff like on the forum? I don't have a scale so can't help, but I need to get one any ways to weigh cymbals.
     
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  11. shiek_yerbouti

    shiek_yerbouti Very well Known Member

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    I actually just bought a full set of the Ludwig Atlas Classic flat based hardware because I wanted to reduce the weight of my hardware. The stands I was using before this (and am comparring them to) are the Mapex double braced 550 Series.

    Lets see how much weight I saved by switching:

    Mapex 550 Series

    Hi Hat 9.63 lb.
    Snare Stand 6.56 lb.
    Boom Stand 9.56 lb.
    Straight Stand 7.97
    Total weight of Mapex Double Braced = 33.72 lb

    Ludwig Atlas Classic Flat Stands

    Hi Hat 6.87 lb.
    Snare Stand 6.59 lb.
    Boom Stand 6.05 lb.
    Straight Stand 5.21 lb.
    Total weight of Ludwig Atlas Classic Flat = 24.72 lb

    So, I had never weighed my hardware before, but since I just bought all this stuff I thought I would see how much impact it has on the trap case weight. If I would have had to guess, I would have thought the double braced stands weigh twice as much as they actually do. They FEEL heavy. All this trouble to make my case weigh 9 pounds less! Do any manufacturers publish these weights for their current products? They should!

    Don't get me wrong the new Ludwig stands are lighter and they do go very nice with my old Super Classic kit. The look of the hardware was also part of the deal for me. I really like the hi hat stand most of all. It's very smooth and sensitive. The boom stand only has one pipe section before the boom section - the other stands I have include 2 tiers before the boom arm. So, the Ludwig boom is a little shorter overall than I thought it would be.
     
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    hefty DFO Master

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    Thanks much SY! But your weights have got to be in kilograms, right? Otherwise your double braced Mapex hi-hat stand is lighter than the lightweight Canopus! (http://www.canopusdrums.com/en/otherproducts/lightweight/hihatstand/index.html). But if they are kg it makes sense-- Mapex hi-hat would be 9.5 lbs or 1.5 lbs heavier than my medium weight Yamaha.
     
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    shiek_yerbouti Very well Known Member

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    I will double check tonight, but I do know how to use the scale pretty good by now.
     
  14. Sonorholic

    Sonorholic DFO Master

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    I should weigh all my stuff sometime. I'm intrigued by DW's new 'feather' weight cymbal stand, I think its under 3 pounds? Could be really great, but my old Ldwig flat base and 'mini' Atlas ( concert snare stand bottom with flat base top sections.) work great for now.

    My biggest problem is a throne. It's easilly the heaviest thing I carry and I wish I could get something lighter, but so far I haven't found anything. I might try using my current top with a lighter base, but not sure that would last either.
     
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    You're right Hefty. I had the scale set to kilograms! I just re-weighed everything just to be sure. Shall I just correct it on my original post?
     
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    hefty DFO Master

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    Ah, cool... Yeah just edit your post and then I'll add them to my spreadsheet and my original post. I figure I'll make the first post of this thread the main list. Thanks again for the data!
     
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    You got me to wondering about stand weights so I dug some of them out and put them on the scale.

    First are the Gibraltar 8000 series flat base stands.
    8706 snare stand - 5.65 lbs
    8707 hi-hat stand - 7.75 lbs
    8710 straight cymbal stand - 5.55 lbs
    8709 boom cymbal stand - 5.98 lbs

    Then I decided to weigh my vintage 60's Ludwig stands for comparison.
    1363 snare stand - 3.90 lbs
    1123-1 hi-hat stand - 4.95 lbs
    1400 straight cymbal stand - 3.75 lbs

    Hope you find the data useful.
     
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    hefty DFO Master

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    This is great guys (thanks SY and Geardaddy!). I've updated the original post to include all new additions...
     
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    This topic has come up a couple times recently so I'll bump this up again, and put out a call for more weights! Anyone?
     
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    Updated the list with a few new entries (DCP flat-based, Yamaha 600 series hi-hat, Tama First chair). Let me know if you have any additions!
     

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