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Discussion in 'General' started by hefty, Feb 19, 2014.
Bumping this up after adding Tama flat-based and DW UL stuff...
Killer thread... Thanks for sharing!
bumping since there's been discussion recently about weights....this really should be a sticky, its a great resource
Had some requests to pin this one. So it's at the top for you!
I added a couple hi-hat stands.
I'm always interested in making this list more complete so if you own something not on this list, weight it and hit me up!
I must have not noticed this thread when it had first appeared. It's reassuring to learn that I am not the only one who has gone so far as to weigh their hardware (tip: I used a fish scale - not a fish's scale - to do this. One can also use it to weigh cymbals if they take an extra cymbal felt and thread a piece of clothesline through it, make a loop at one end to attach to the hook on the scale).
Here's my list:
Item Weight (Pounds)
DW 5000 Series Snare Stand 8.75
DW 7000 Cymbal boom stand 8.75
DW 9100 Round Drum Throne 14.3
H&B Companion (hardware) Case 32.8
Ludwig Flat Base Snare Stand 4
PDP Cym Stand (w/extra cym arm) 13.8
PDP Cym Stand (w/tom holder) 11.1
SKB Med Size HW Case 20.25
Sonor 400 Series double tom
mount (complete) 6
Sonor 400 Series Single Tom
Mount (complete) 6
Sonor SS477 Snare Stand 10
Sonor Perf Bal Pedal 4.25
Sonor Z 5554 Snare Stand 7.2
Tama Iron Cobra HH 11.5
Yamaha Flying Dragon single pedal 5.5
Yamaha HS-750A Hi-Hat Stand 9
Great thread, man I hate carrying a heavy bag of hardware! I'll dig around and see if I have anything I can add to the list.
Snare stand: Pearl S-830, 4.8lb. Double-braced, universal tilter. This is the one I'll be traveling with. Lighter than my Yamaha 700 and the adjustment works better. My Yamaha always had a little slop in it.
( NOTE: This is a copy of a post I made at Cymbalholic on June, 30th of 2015 concerning the same subject as this thread )
Not 100% sure if I ever contributed to this thread, but I've had this nagging thought running through my head for some time now that I need to get on this.....so I did.
If this is a repeat post, feel free to delete it.
OK, so I wanted to get some stuff done with the second kit this morning and while I had the whole thing torn apart, I noticed I actually had some quiet time to "geek out" a little, so I weighed all the hardware that I own.
I used the same 25lb. baby scale I've been using for years, so if nothing else, all of my weight measurements are standardized to themselves, since almost everything I've ever weighed has been on this particular scale.
First off, all my Gibraltar stuff.
All of this hardware is from Gibraltar's JZ series and more so, from the original incarnation of that series, as it existed in '99.
There's been a reintroduction of the series, but I don't know if it still exists.
The repop stuff was different from my hardware, so please keep this in mind.
(2) Straight Cymbal Stands - 2.39553kg. & 2.38136kg.
Snare stand - 2.42388kg.
Hi-Hat stand - 3.77049kg.
My throne is also Gibraltar but it is an early 7500 series. I actually ordered a 7200 series, but they were already out of stock of the older models, so they honoured the same price and I got the newer butt stand.
Its a cloth covered round seat and I will likely never sell it. It's that good.
It weighs 4.2666kg.
I've used the same Camco by Tama chain drive since 1990.
In '99 or 2000 I picked up a Duplex Soft Beater and have been using that one, since.
Weight of the pedal with the fuzzy beater - 1.27573kg.
I did keep the original beater and put it back on just to see if it made a difference.
Weight of pedal with original beater - 1.26155kg.
Recently, I picked up some new equipment for the second kit. One of them is the Sakae HS-20F, a flat base hi-hat stand.
The Sakae feels surprisingly light and "nimble" in my hands.
Weight of this stand - 2.31049kg. (almost exactly the same as my old 22" Standard Ride)
Lastly, there's a couple of generic snare stands that I will encorporate into the second kit.
They're no name stands, although they look like old Pearl war horses.
Fairly identical in form, they both feature the basket with the large adjustment nut underneath it.
One is double braced, the other is single braced.
They both weigh exactly the same - 2.56563kg.
As I wrote this, I suddenly realized there's a slender little Percussion Plus cymbal stand hiding in the corner that I forgot to weigh, but I need to pick up a couple more of these, so I'll weigh that one at a later date along with the others.
P.S. - I've since found out that Percussion Plus cymbal stand is about 1.1 kg, or roughly 2 lbs. 6.8 oz.
Glad this thread was revived! I recently weighed most of my vintage Slingerland stands. My scale is a commercial-grade Pitney Bowes, accurate to 0.5 ounces up to 70 pounds. Here's what I have...
806 Dynamo Hi Hat 8lbs 11oz
1382 Rocket Snare Stand 6lbs 5oz
66 Buddy Rich Cymbal Stand 5lbs 10.5oz
804 Flush Base Hi Hat 4lbs 13.5oz
802 Flush Base Snare Stand 3lbs 11.5oz
33 Flush Base Cymbal Stand 3lbs 3.0oz
Seeing all these heavyweights makes me so glad to have wised up and jettisoned much of my double braced hardware over the past few years. I'm sure that heavy stuff serves a purpose for some of you out there, but for 99% of the gigs I play (moderate jazz to heavy rock), the single braced stuff will do. I'm entering my 40s and my back is already thanking me for ending all of the needless lugging and tugging. Plus, the lightweight hardware options these days are SO much better than what I had to work with a few decades ago.
Updated the spreadsheet with all the new info. Thanks everyone for the additions!
Many years ago, I found that switching from a 13/16 tom setup to a 12/14 tom setup made a TON of difference in how much of a chore it was to cart my kit around.
These days I'm working on putting the whole thing into a couple of bags and just hoisting them on my shoulders.
Light drums, light hardware = happy drummer. =)
ChromaCast Retro Series Flat Bottom Snare Stand 5.5 pounds
ChromaCast Retro Series Flat Bottom Hi-Hat Stand 6.6 pounds
Added. Hadn't heard of those before. Thanks for the info!
Updated list with new Tama Classic Stand series stuff.
The Pearl 150 line (flat-based/convertible). I have the snare stand and like it a lot. Thanks for keeping this thread updated. I refer to it often.
Pearl S150S snare stand: 5.18 lbs
Pearl C150S straight cymbal stand: 4.8 lbs
Pearl BC150S boom cymbal stand: 5.42 lbs
Pearl H150S hi-hat stand: 6.3 lbs
Thanks for those! I've added them to the list. For some reason the Pearl light weight stuff has been totally off my radar. Doesn't seem to get talked about around here nearly as much as the other new lightweight stuff...
I've got a bunch of Tama, Pearl and Gibraltar stuff I can get some weights on for you. Its all going to be heavy stuff though. The Gibraltar is flat based hardware though. That's my light weight stuff.
Obviously this spreadsheet focuses more on the light weight stuff but I'll take weights of any kind of hardware. It makes for interesting comparison if nothing else.