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Discussion in 'Vintage Venue' started by DrummerJustLikeDad, Feb 9, 2019.
How come the front head doesn't have the large Rogers logo?
Won't last long at $2,500. What a beauty!!
Not sure -- it does have a small logo though. Pic's on Maxwell's site: https://www.maxwelldrums.com/rogers-stock-2012165x14-drum-p-19041.html
Thanks for the post. Some one is going to be lucky owner. I hope they enjoy them. A real classic.
Yeah, I’d have to set them up and play them!
NOS by definition, but there are condition grades within NOS too. With some items already showing rust, it's probably also the case that the lugs and other chrome parts like tension rods show faint pitting/rust, and the wrap slightly mellowed, just from having lived 50+ years in the earths' atmosphere.
I'd play this one too if I owned it. Just preserve the heads. I might even go as far as playing it with a 2nd set of batter hoops, to prevent any degradation from wear and tear. Very cool kit. I don't see it listed on Reverb yet. But, at $2500 that's a fair deal....and certainly a better deal than a 50's PDP kit at $7K.
1) Steve could have played them with mallets just for the tone, or at least his hands a la others....just to tease us more!
2) More importantly, I wonder if those labels are simply stuck on, or if they are nailed on. I assume, either way, the wrap color is different underneath.....
Maybe this is why he didn’t play them.(taken from context description)
“To me, the fact that this set hasn't been played and is in the same condition as it was when delivered 54 years ago makes me think that this should really be the cornerstone of a collection rather than a gigging kit. I think it is probably a very safe assumtion to say that you won't find another one.”
These are now on Reverb:
I really am tempted, but.I.must.resist.
I honestly can't see the value in this. It most certainly is NOT "exactly as it was delivered 54 years ago" as claimed. It has frozen tone controls and there is mention of rust elsewhere. Maybe no one ever hit the heads, but so what? It is not a time machine. It's an old drum set. Also, the dealer badges are unsightly. Are they glued on, or nailed? What do the interiors look like?
And, that reso bass drum head appears to be a batter with that small logo.
Too many what ifs for me. If you want a player's kit, buy one at half the price. If you want a collector's kit, there are many out there that are perfect inside and out for less than this. And what kind of enthusiast or succeeding owner would care that you bought an unplayable drum set at a premium?
In terms the wrap I’ve had plenty of wmp that look better than the Never been played model.
Holy smokes! Bernie Zieglers music store in Aurora was the place of legends! He would only open the store back in the nineties with an appointment. I've been down there. He had at least twenty nos sets and at least 100 Gibsons Grestch and Fenders. He called it his retirement fund.
The set that sticks with me are the Trixons egg base and the conical ones.
He was a pretty eccentric guy way back then. I can't imagine he's lasted this long,must be an estate.
He was asking way more than new prices for sixties gear in the nineties. I had to pass , but this dude was an icon in his own mind ans a real charachter. Right across the street was a pawn shop that I scored many deals from.....
The main listing shows 20/12/14, then says 16 in the print. At first, I thought the price was right for a 14" FT. Still, it just takes one buyer and I love the set. I had a tall rim on a Powertone snare and it changed the rim shot angle significantly. Ace
That's weird - the link shows 14 but the title of the listing shows 16......
Not a FT mystery, just a typo on Reverb. Steve’s site only says 16” and photos show a 16” FT.
I thought the same thing
Man, that and the Ludwig are cool. Can you imagine what the price would be if these were NOS guitars of the same era?
What I usually say about kits like this is that they shouldn't be played, since that will only reduce their value.
In this case however, the price of the kit is really not that high, especially considering that the maple Powertone snare is also included, a drum that could bring $750 by itself.
Remove all the original heads, rehead the drums with Ambassadors or whatever you like, and play them. Even gigs would be ok, as long as you were careful - and what Rogers guy wouldn't be? I wouldn't touch the hardware inside, though I would probably remove and service the tone controls and then put them back in.
At that price, the kit would retain almost all of it's value, as long as you keep them in near-mint condition.
I'm with tk1 on this! To me, condition and completeness is everything. That means that the parts you can't see, such as all interior attaching hardware, needs to be in like-new condition. This kit has none of that! Also, as stated, I knock off points, and dollar value, for the store badges that are attached to the shells. My avatar is my 1966 Headliner kit, which is in much better condition that Steve's kit. My kit even has period correct Rogers heads top and bottom on the toms and batter head on the bass. And, I paid about 1/3 less for my kit!
I have never seen a 60s Rogers drum that didn't have that grunge on the lug screws and washers. Ace