New/used kit advise: Keystone vs 3 ply Butcher Block

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  1. sass

    sass Member

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    Thanks for the link. I appreciate it! Unfortunately up in Canada we get to pay a little more due to the crappy USD vs CDN dollar disparity. That $860 amount is actually $1,066.43 + $342.44 in shipping (and then likely customs on top of that). Very nice kit however. The BB's I am looking at...The owner originally wanted $1,200 CDN. I got him to $1,000 before even going to see them....This would equal around $800 south of the border.
     
  2. sass

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    Thank you everyone for posting their opinions...quite an even split! Many have said that the $1,000 is too high. Please remember this is CDN currency. This would equate to around $800 USD. Would you think that is too high as well (side note: Owner originally wanted $1,200 CDN which would be around $950 USD)?
     
  3. jptrickster

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    800 USD is a fair price for those drums in good condition
     
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    Agreed.
     
  5. sass

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    Quick update: I went and had a look at the BB kit. As much as I liked them a few things put me off and I am not going to go that route now. 1) Serial #'s didn't match 2) The floor tom looked like it had a stain on the inner shell whereas the other 2 were clear. 3) Bass drum hoops were pretty rashed from pedals etc (this possibly could have been cleaned however).

    The cool thing was the drummer selling turned out to be a well known local drummer who was nominated for a Canadian Music Award. He used to play with Holly McNarland who has had some Canadian hits!

    Still need to see the Keystones (a bit of a drive for me). Hopefully next week. A friend of mine had a set of keystones and wasn't a fan of the Atlas mounts. Anyone else have thoughts on the Atlas Mounts??

    The other kit that is on my radar and is quite a different kit is the DW Frequent Flyer. If I could find a used white onyx kit that would be the easy winner.
     
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    I don't think you'll ever find a Ludwig kit from that era where the serial numbers match. The best you can hope for is that they're close; even if they weren't, that wouldn't faze me if I liked the kit.
     
  7. sass

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    Interesting. I am certainly not a vintage guru guy by any means...I figured that would have really took their value down. Was that a normal thing back in the day? Thanks for the feedback
     
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    With Ludwig, it was totally the norm. Ludwig placed little importance on keeping serial numbers in sequence. It wasn't unusual for them to build a partial set with close serial numbers, then when they got an order for a set, they would make the necessary drums to complete the set and put on whatever badges were laying around. So, you'd have a brand new set that was shipped together with serial numbers thousands apart.
     
  9. sass

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    Well the decision has been made for better or worse. I went with the Keystones. The kit looked like it had never been used and I think it will work perfect for gigging in the band I am with. They sound great IMO. Not so sure I love the Atlas mounts on the floor tom but not a deal breaker by any means. I do love the memory locks on the floor tom legs....that's a first for me.

    Thank you to all for sharing their opinions. Much appreciated.
     
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    I have an early to mid-'80s Butcher Block kit fitted with the Modular Hardware (6 or seven ply maple-conflicting information as to number of plies). These are unsupported shells.

    The shells are nice, but I don't know if the Modular Hardware with the Pearl-style through the shell "plumbing" is less desirable and decreases the value.

    Can anyone please educate me on this factor?
     
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