Ok, so this is a strange pair. Repaired pre-serial over repaired Blue Label. The first cymbal is a pre-serial 602 that had a chip and was professionally repaired. The work was done cleanly. It is just a touch heavier than the Blue Label, but I believe most of the weight is in the bell as it plays light, which is why I personally chose this to be the top. The second is a Blue Label 602 that was originally a 16" Medium that was cut down. I left all the ink on there because it's kind of a cool story. It was cut down PERFECTLY by a professional. The edge is clean and the diameter is perfect. Paiste is consistent and this will match any true 14" Paiste cymbal. I chose to make it a bottom because its weight is closer to the edge. $140, shipped.