The people who post negatively about the integrity of vintage Slingerland hardware piss me off--especially if they are vintage Luddy-huggers. The absolute worst drum set hardware I ever experienced was on a brand new Ludwig drum set in 1966. At the time, i was gigging with a set of Oaklawn Camco drums. Before the Camcos, I gigged with Rogers or Slingerland drums. This particular gig was a massive Chicagoland battle of the bands held at the old International Amphitheater in Chicago. One of the sponsors of the event was Ludwig. When we arrived to the venue, we were informed that the Ludwig drum set with the cymbals and all hardware onstage MUST be used by the drummer in each competing band. Fender was another sponsor, and all amplified instruments had to play through the back line of Fender amps. That was OK because our two guitar players and the bass player all used Fender amps, anyway. The list of what went wrong with this drum set is too long for me to write in this post. But, simply stated, the snare drum stand, the Speed King bass drum pedal, tom holders, and the cymbal stands all either slipped or fell apart DURING THE PERFORMANCE. The snare drum sounded like a wet oatmeal box. And, the bass drum sounded like a bigger wet cardboard box. I didn't think much of Ludwigs before this experience, and have disliked that brand ever since.