British Drum Company Love

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So, this is a story about how I became a British Drum Company fan. I'm writing this because I think they're cool and that not enough people in the US are giving them a try. I hope that if you're a fan you'll chime in and tell your own story, even if it's just about a snare drum.

My wife taught for a semester in Manchester, UK in the fall of 2022 and I tagged along. I was lucky enough during my time there to head out to Drum One and with the help of Phil "Pesky" Westwood I got to sample pretty much the entire British Drum Company product line. To say that I was impressed is an understatement-- these were just gorgeous, innovative, interesting, and extremely well-built drums. Near the end of my time in Manchester I went back to Drum One and bought something I REALLY didn't think I'd ever want-- the Nicko McBrain Talisman heavy steel snare drum. In fact, I didn't even want to try it, but Pesky said, "No, this is the gem of the whole line-- just try it." My jazz/Americana/not-metal brain was stunned by the sound and feel of the drum. It was somehow both a Keplinger AND a Supra AND just magical-- very sensitive, but ready to be bashed to hell, too. And if I shipped it home myself I could get the VAT deduction and whatnot. So, OK. I took a risk. I've taken that drum on kinda bashing gigs but also on very quiet jazz gigs. That's a championship-grade snare drum, right there.

They had just released the Raven snare drum, and I knew I'd eventually have to get one of those, too. I did, but later and back in the US. To my ears, the Raven is to birch snare drums what a Canopus "The Maple" is to maple drums-- it does everything happily and with great character. The build is beautiful. It's sad that the price has jumped up so much but it's still absolutely worth it.

I went back and forth on whether to get a full kit. Eventually it was irresistible, so I sold some stuff to be able to afford it. I got this Lounge kit in Carnaby Knight, 14x20, 14x14, 8x12. I added a 12x16 bass drum for the jazz gigs. I've started gigging them regularly and I have to say that even though right now I'm flush with amazing drums (a Yamaha AHM shell bank and an Ayotte wood hoop 12/14/18bd/20bd) these may well be my favorites. They have incredible tone, warmth, functionality, light weight. And so far every gig with them has elicited at least one "wow" over the finish. There is something about the inner mahogany ply and the round-over edges that is just transformative on an otherwise very modern drum kit-- it scratches that old Ludwig itch without the hassle of a vintage kit.

And yes, since someone will mention it: The Overtone heads are a real bummer. Gotta just ditch those.

When we were on break on my first jazz gig with the 16, my bass player said, "You really need to hear how that bass drum sounds out front" and sat down behind the drums. Dang. The tone and depth of the thing out front exceeded my high expectations.

A few days later I was on an Americana gig. I tuned the toms down about a half turn on every lug and brought the 20" bass drum. Again, perfection. No complaints.

I've added a Lounge snare drum as well. I'm not convinced that I need both the Raven and the Lounge since in most tuning ranges they sound very similar, but I'll probably keep it. I should probably sell it and get another metal shelled-BDC snare drum.

I hope these catch on more in the American market. They're just great, great drums.

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I finally got to see some in person at the Music City Drum Show last month. Although I do not own any, I do like what I have seen and read concerning them. I would not hesitate to own a set.
 
Nice... Gear, I believe, is all about what inspires you to play the stuff, and it sounds like that's exactly what these drums are doing for you. I like the aesthetics and I can relate to your choice of sizes (just what I would get, and I even have those Yamaha Crosstown stands!). There are so many brands available, each with their own vibe that it makes sense to check out as many as you can, rather than simply saying "I'm a Ludwig/Tama/Yamaha/Gretsch/etc player." If you have the money to buy brand new, why not check out all you can before making a decision? Cool that you were able to go to the source and check out the whole line...
 
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A couple years ago, I was in Edinburgh for a while for work. I was about to turn 50 and was looking to get a new kit to mark the occasion. The two I was looking at were the Ludwig Classic Oak and the BDC Legend. There was more info on the Ludwig, and most of the sound samples I could get on BDC were through Drum Center of Portsmouth. I ended up talking to a drummer in the Royal Marines (they use BDC marching drums), and he was very high on the company and had played one of the kits. Eventually, I decided to take a chance and ordered a Legend kit through Drum Center of Portsmouth.

It's a great kit. Good amount of attack, but it's not all attack like some birch drums. The slightly undersized shells make it easy to tune. They hold tuning very well, and I really don't need to adjust them very often. The finish I have is Fistral Blue, which isn't a gloss lacquer. It's a little understated, but the ash veneer and the burst finish gives it a cool texture. All of the hardware seems pretty sturdy. I like the look of the palladium lugs that they use. The isolation stuff is pretty stable and preserves the resonance of the drums. I have a 2 up/1 down set up, and the one thing I wish is that they did a bass drum mount. Originally, I had the toms off to the L side of the bass drum on a double tom stand, but I actually prefer the old school mount on the bd, so I ended up getting an INDE mount. It works pretty well, but bounces around a little more than I'd like.

Other than that, I love the drums. I appreciate their commitment to quality, their shell design, and their aesthetic choices. It's cool that their drums have names that are a little more interesting than a catalog number. There's definitely part of me that wishes the original team was still there. That probably has nothing to do with logic, but the story behind how that group got together and started making drums is great. Even though he probably had nothing to do with it, I'm glad that I got the drums while Keith Keough was still involved with the company in some way. I wish them well for the future and hope they stick around. It's a tough business, and I hope they can get some more international artists and visibility.
 
The way you describe the Nicko - Talisman snaredrum is just what I want from a snare. I love drums that can deliver blasting back beats AND are highly sensitive and responsive at a very low volume.
 
I have a weird association/opinion of BDC and none of it is based on any facts.

I think they make some really stunning looking drums and their shell hardware seems to be beyond reproach.

However, being a British brand, I continue to conjure up the Premier experience in my head. You can't move these for love or money in the North American market.

In spite of what some people think, personally, there is an "investment" component for my major purposes.

Additionally, it sends a yellow flag when one of the founders of the company (Keith Keough), leaves to pursue other opportunities.

All this being said, I do have a Talisman Snare on my radar!
 
I have a weird association/opinion of BDC and none of it is based on any facts.

I think they make some really stunning looking drums and their shell hardware seems to be beyond reproach.

However, being a British brand, I continue to conjure up the Premier experience in my head. You can't move these for love or money in the North American market.

In spite of what some people think, personally, there is an "investment" component for my major purposes.

Additionally, it sends a yellow flag when one of the founders of the company (Keith Keough), leaves to pursue other opportunities.

All this being said, I do have a Talisman Snare on my radar!
I don't know... I feel like there is starting to be a bit of a buzz about this brand and that is kind of the main thing that helps sales. I think that if more drum shops get these kits in, if people play them and really like them, if they're competitively priced and if there's a few star endorsers, that they should do reasonably well. I don't believe that most potential buyers minds will be too caught up on the retaliative failure of Premier or who's happens to be running the company.
 
A few years ago I assembled a couple of snare drums using components sourced on eBay, the first one was a cherry shell, it was a bit ropey but sounded fine but I fancied doing the second one with a birch shell.

I ordered the birch shell from a guy on eBay who turned out to be Keith Keough, the founder of British Drum Company. It took a couple of months to arrive, which I wasn't happy about but when it did finally turn up it was a lovely piece of work. There was a short note of friendly apology in the box where he explained about stopping selling shells to start a full drum company.

I finished the shell with alcohol ink, royal blue outside and red inside then Danish Oil. It has an Evans Hydraulic head fitted and sounds like Thor's hammer.
 
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I don't know... I feel like there is starting to be a bit of a buzz about this brand and that is kind of the main thing that helps sales. I think that if more drum shops get these kits in, if people play them and really like them, if they're competitively priced and if there's a few star endorsers, that they should do reasonably well. I don't believe that most potential buyers minds will be too caught up on the retaliative failure of Premier or who's happens to be running the company.
I don't know either.

As I indicated, my feelings weren't based on any facts (in fact, they may border on irrational).

I also happen to be of, ahem, a certain age, so the Premier experience is something I remember, and your probably quite right in saying many people wouldn't think the same way.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Premier, (I even had a Black Shadow Resonator kit) and BDC shares some DNA with them.

However, like many others in our industry they made some decisions that probably didn't serve them well - some were just poor luck and out of their control. I would say their lack of proper distribution channels was the nail.

Again, I truly believe they make some great drums, however its my own idiosyncratic notions here!
 
I don't know either.

As I indicated, my feelings weren't based on any facts (in fact, they may border on irrational).

I also happen to be of, ahem, a certain age, so the Premier experience is something I remember, and your probably quite right in saying many people wouldn't think the same way.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Premier, (I even had a Black Shadow Resonator kit) and BDC shares some DNA with them.

However, like many others in our industry they made some decisions that probably didn't serve them well - some were just poor luck and out of their control. I would say their lack of proper distribution channels was the nail.

Again, I truly believe they make some great drums, however its my own idiosyncratic notions here!
I briefly owned a cheaper Premier kit, an XPK series one, which was basically OK, if not great (I felt that the tone was a bit thin/brittle), but had a really serious quality issue with the lugs, which kept snapping. I was told that there was a known issue with this series as well as some others which shared the same lugs. Even so, if I was in the market for a kit, I wouldn't pass by Premier if I were to find a kit that checked all of the boxes in terms of sound, finish, sizes and price. I know that they made some very good drums, even if they weren't exactly fashionable here in the US...
 
This kit sounds fantastic, one of the better drum kit videos this year. Cosmetically I like their re-rings but I think they sound better w/o

 
Enjoying this thread already and looking forward to many more post.

Im a HUGE Premier fan having played a British made Maple Artist kit for 20 years. Then I had a stunning Keith built piccolo in that transition period. After the BDC started making it to America, I saw this stunning BDC Legend Birch beauty listed here on the forums

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I told the seller I really did not need it, I just WANTED it and would probably move it on one day. I owned it for exactly 3 days when a buddy dropped by and said "HOLY COW... WHAT IS THAT?" He fell in love more than I had even and he left with it, I did not even try to make anything, just told him what I had payed and he said please sell it to me! LOL! But glad I did buy the drum as it was the first time I could really scrutinize a BDC instrument, it is an amazing build quality.

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So then, our own Lossforgain had an intriguing BDC "Raven" listed for sale here as well. Though, by the time I had decided I was interested it was sold. When he wrote to let me know it was not available I was fine, as it was really just curiosity anyway, I was not actually looking for one of these specifically.

Being the great guy he is, he wrote back days later with a link to one for sale on line. I thanked him and moved on.

Apparently, the only place I moved on to was the listing and bought the darn thing! The seller had brand new Remo's top and bottom and made me a spectacular deal so I had to grab it. No really, I had to.

I assume this is a type of "loss leader" for BDC as it features every detail of their top end snares but for half the price. A 6X14" drum with10 plys of Scandinavian Birch & a Black finished Ash face veneer. What a lovely drum all around!
 
1-2 years ago BDC ran into some difficulties with their US distribution, making them harder to find over here. But now they are working with a new distributor who is making their drums more readily available to dealers. I could easily order them for my shop. I may get some one day, but presently I’m strapped for space and have just added some other new lines. I’m happy to special order for anyone who wants to give BDC a try!
 
1-2 years ago BDC ran into some difficulties with their US distribution, making them harder to find over here. But now they are working with a new distributor who is making their drums more readily available to dealers. I could easily order them for my shop. I may get some one day, but presently I’m strapped for space and have just added some other new lines. I’m happy to special order for anyone who wants to give BDC a try!
BDC had a number of issues a couple of years ago corporately that meant that many of the people involved in setting it up left, in fact there's now only Al Murray (well known British comedian who is a drummer) left from the original group. It's now fundamentally owned by Murray and Nicko (fine) with Craig Buckley who was one of Premier's directors when it started to go downhill rapidly as MD.

The company has changed significantly recently with introduction of an imported maple range, the Enigma, and Keith's departure. It needs to be remembered that all the original drum lines were designed and developed by Keith so it will be interesting to see what happens next in terms of new designs.
 
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