Being in bands you don't really care about

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Get out. You’re doing not anyone any favors - including yourself - by sticking around.

Plus, life’s too short. You’re wasting time. Find a teacher and work on your craft because that’s valuable on its own merit.

That’s exactly what I did when I got tired of dive bar cover bands , I quit taking gigs and took lessons hoping to find an original artist to play for . I ended up hitting the jackpot if I don’t say so myself .


I recently started jamming with an old band mate that I used to write songs with hoping we can get them recorded , he’s making me question continuing because of his personal demons , but man the guy is just fantastic.
 
Anyone else in this situation? Ever since moving to AZ a year ago, I have had to settle for playing in bands where the music isn't/wasn't really what I wanted to play. So far, I have been in 3 original bands and I'm currently in a cover band that I really don't give a $ about. I don't practice the songs and I don't really put any effort into it. Often I wonder why I continue with them, but I suppose something is better than nothing.

Anyone else?
I don't know what your personal priorities and motivations are. But, mine include always looking to improve my skills and musical sensibility, which I can do even playing music, or in a band, that I'm not that happy with. Of course, I'd rather play my preferred genre's of music with players I really want to play with. Absent those options, I'll play for the benefit of my personal priorities.
 
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Hey, me too... I started playing country/rock in bar bands during my college days in about 1976 in Flagstaff AZ (NAU... go Lumberjacks!) then moved to Prescott and did about 20 years on Whiskey Row in two different bands... always liked playing the country-rock stuff (both bands always did a wide variety of styles) and felt appreciated.

Then I started playing more jazz and that's when I really felt like an under-payed, under-appreciated "human drum machine" of a person... I wasn't treated as a "Real Musician" like the hot-shot jazz sax or jazz piano guy. Way too many big egos in the darn jazz groups. I basically gave up on bands after playing jazz for ten so years or so, which was kinda sad because I loved jazz. I had gotten heavily into jazz in college way back in the '70's... especially fusion and bebop... and always had a desire to play more of it.

These days I avoid bands with a passion... I still play drums in the local college Concert Band once a week (Sousa Marches and Star Wars themes, baby!), and that's enough drumming for me. It doesn't pay much though... come to think of it, I have to pay to play at the college. Darn...
I retired right before covid and my wife and i moved for first time in 30yrs to a nicer place. I had a studio built out back and practiced my ass off during shut down. In the last six yrs, ive played with some of the best musicians, diverse music i ever have. I was reluctant to play clubs again but i do and enjoy because of the caliber of persons/musicians im playing with. While i was making a living playing country, i was studying everything else.
 
Maybe not the band per se, but the gig types sure. Great American Songbook sets, slow ballads, occasional pre-bop song, lots of brushes. Playing softly while people eat dinner and socialize as some sort of non-music centric event. Corporate retirement parties etc.
 
When I was just starting out, I was like Jim Carey in Yes Man. I said yes to everyone and everything to get as much experience as I could. This led to some less than satisfying band experiences, and I rarely lasted more than a few months with a band. Either I liked the music, but didn't care for the people, or I liked the people, but the music wasn't my cuppa.

Luckily I found my unicorn with some guys who I really like as people and with whom I lock in musically. I've been with them over 30 years. I won't tolerate bad bands these days, but I still will jam with just about anyone who wants to play. I love it and take what I can get.
 
Yup, I've been there playing at a couple of different churches. My only regret is that I didn't quit sooner.
 
Yup, I've been there playing at a couple of different churches. My only regret is that I didn't quit sooner.
I'm not a believer and I used to be able to swallow that stuff. But I'm having a much more difficult time lately. I don't mind the message actually, but some of the songs are banal. I'd be better off playing tambourine on the classics than some of the new stuff.
 
I'm not a believer and I used to be able to swallow that stuff. But I'm having a much more difficult time lately. I don't mind the message actually, but some of the songs are banal. I'd be better off playing tambourine on the classics than some of the new stuff.

In the area where I grew up, I was one of the first to bring drums inside of a church back in the early 1990s. I was met with much more hostility than I was given a warm welcome; however, I feel I may have had a small part in helping churches around here become more accepting of other instruments besides a piano and an organ. These days, it's old hat.

During this time, I made a promise to myself to never fall into the "well, the older music was sooo much better" because was met with so much of this from churchgoers. I've seen several different trends/styles of music come and go through praise and worship music, some I loved and some I can't stand. IMO, P&W isn't exactly my favorite right now, but like anything else, it'll probably get better if I just wait it out. With that said, I don't plan on playing regularly again at church for a long time.
 
I've just dropped out of a band here in the UK. The positive side was that it was all original music and well written. All the members contributed to the development of the songs and we attracted interest from regional radio. who regularly played our songs. They weren't aware that the band are not kids.

The negative side was that the other members had 60 years gigging experience between them but still turned up to rehearsals and gigs having forgotten to bring leads, tuners, even on one occasion failing to bring a guitar amp.

They also had little technical knowledge of how instruments work and would make basic errors like wrapping strings only once round a tuning peg, cutting off the excess then wondering why the strings slipped.

It was okay for a few years but when no behaviour evolution happens it gets wearing.
I get that! I was once in a band with one member who operated along those same lines. The guy was the singer and couldn't seem to figure out his mic stand, so that he'd often bump the thing, the mic would fall to the floor, and then by the time that he would put it back together, a 2 or 4 bar intro would become an 8 bar thing and really sap the momentum of the music. He played a digital sampler, with some clips of stuff like old movie dialog, which was cool in theory, but the guy would mix up samples and pretty constantly play the wrong samples at the wrong time, and if not that he would have trouble getting the thing to work at all. I won't even get into his playing on the trumpet and French horn, instruments that he claimed he was first chair on in high school, but could almost never play the simple lines in our songs without hitting a few notes that were WAY out of key. It was too bad because he and the guitarist, who was an almost equally shaky player, wrote some tunes that I thought had some real potential, it's just that they never seemed to come out nearly as great as I felt they should have.

This is the problem with playing with folks who really seem to have some creative inspiration - they may not also be the kind of folks who are consistent as players. To find folks that really have it together in their musical ability, but who are also truly creative types is quite difficult, at least in my experience...
 
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Here is my church gig story...

Years ago an ex-student of mine (guitar player) asked if I would play drums with his praise band at the local Lutheran church. I said "Lemme think about it". I was not much of a church-goer but there were some good folks in the band and also at the church.

Then he said "it pays $50 a gig". I said "when do I start?"

Mind you, I did not ask to be paid. The church obviously thought music was important and had a budget to pay musicians.

Anyway, I did the gig for about 6 or 8 months. It was actually a fun job, I would get a cassette tape with the tunes for the week on Wednesday, listen, take a few notes and show up Sunday morning to play. Easy! Got home by noon! Good for brain! Music all sounded like warmed-over U2 or mushy 80's love songs!


THE REST OF THE STORY...I go into the office one afternoon to pick up my monthly check and book-keeper person behind the desk says:

"OH, YOU PLAY IN THE PRAISE BAND? AND YOU GET PAID? I SURE WOULD THINK YOU WOULD DO THAT FOR FREE HERE AT THE CHURCH!"

Of course I did not think fast enough to ask her if SHE was getting paid for her book-keeping work or if the janitor cleaning the floors was getting paid, or if the pastor delivering the sermon was getting paid. Darn 20/20 hindsight...

I quit the next month.
 
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Anyone else in this situation? Ever since moving to AZ a year ago, I have had to settle for playing in bands where the music isn't/wasn't really what I wanted to play. So far, I have been in 3 original bands and I'm currently in a cover band that I really don't give a $ about. I don't practice the songs and I don't really put any effort into it. Often I wonder why I continue with them, but I suppose something is better than nothing.

Anyone else?
Its called being a professional. I don't like a lot of things I have had to play but thats just part of it unless are the band leader. Even then its rare as you need to play what the audience wants to here if you want to succeed
 
I played with a songwriter who wrote these long complex songs that went on and on: 7 - 11 minutes without solos. I kept trying to suggest shortening and simplifying them and that no song needed that many verses. But he insisted the "stories needed to be told" and got really insulted. (No they didn't, his stories sucked!!). And unfortunately it wasn't progressive rock - that might have been fun. He worshipped Todd Rundgren, who I like, but he threw in a lot of cute Todd-isms like breaks that would repeat in various numeric sequences that were hard to get right. And if I messed up, we'd have to start again.

Making matters even worse, the keyboard player's breath was so bad I could smell it across the room and he insisted on singing!! But the funniest part is, I very nearly burned bridges with every bass player I knew trying to find one to complete the quartet. Each bailed after a few rehearsals and they still bring it up 16 years later! But we do get a lot of laughs out of the whole thing.

I also played with a pop-punk trio where the guy was going through some strange proto-maga religious awakening and would set up right in front of me, like 3 feet away, and just glare at me when we rehearsed. And then in the car heading home from gigs, as soon as the Bass Player was dropped off, he'd say there were these things I didn't understand because I was a liberal Jew. It became super uncomfortable. Often during long drives to gigs - he was popular in upstate NY, I would force myself to sleep just to put him out of my head. That and the endless Lou Reed bootlegs.... Eventually he kicked me out because he wanted the drums to be exactly the same every time, even during rehearsals. He did have a sound but I really came to hate playing his music.
 
E been fairly lucky in that regard. From 2000 until 2020, I played with the same trio. We started as an Irish band, playing pub songs (think Clancy Brothers), and we eventually added some different classic rock and folk tunes to the list. when we grew tired of that, we changed it completely. Over covid, we created a jazz trio, and off we go. The other band members happen to be close friends, so that helps a great deal, but you have to do what makes you happy. Unless you are doing this as your only source of income, then why be in a situation where you don’t like the band or the music?
 
Here is my church gig story...

Years ago an ex-student of mine (guitar player) asked if I would play drums with his praise band at the local Lutheran church. I said "Lemme think about it". I was not much of a church-goer but there were some good folks in the band and also at the church.

Then he said "it pays $50 a gig". I said "when do I start?"

Mind you, I did not ask to be paid. The church obviously thought music was important and had a budget to pay musicians.

Anyway, I did the gig for about 6 or 8 months. It was actually a fun job, I would get a cassette tape with the tunes for the week on Wednesday, listen, take a few notes and show up Sunday morning to play. Easy! Got home by noon! Good for brain! Music all sounded like warmed-over U2 or mushy 80's love songs!


THE REST OF THE STORY...I go into the office one afternoon to pick up my monthly check and lady secretary person says:

"OH, YOU PLAY IN THE PRAISE BAND? AND YOU GET PAID? I SURE WOULD THINK YOU WOULD DO THAT FOR FREE HERE AT THE CHURCH!"

Of course I did not fast enough to ask her if SHE was getting paid or if the janitor cleaning the floors was getting paid, or if the pastor delivering the sermon was getting paid. Darn 20/20 hindsight...

I quit the next month.
Yeah, that's a pretty silly, useless attitude. The church could just as easily consider part of their mission to give back to the community monetarily, so if they are offering some kind of service, that it's important for them to be fairly compensated. I helped start and was on the board of a local music non-profit until recently and one of the missions of that thing is to actually employ folks in the community. There are certainly volunteers involved, but the key posts tend to be paid. If you claim to be doing something for the community, it seems like part of that could be to put money into folks' pockets in return for doing work for the organization.
 
My time is much too precious a commodity for me to waste it being in a band I don't care about and/or playing music I don't care about. If it's about the money, there are other things that will net you a much higher monetary return for your time. If it's about keeping busy on the drums, spend that time practicing.

For me, something is definitely NOT better than nothing, unless that 'something' is something that I love doing.
 
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