Great article on what is mahogany and what is not

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Very cool. Never played a good mahogany kit. Always thought it be pretty cool, but I imagine it's heavy. I don't know much about woods.
 
gretschdrummer said:

Mahogany Mixups: the Lowdown | The Wood Database

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Here’s another informative article I posted previously that clearly distinguishes genuine Honduran mahogany from other woods that are called mahogany for marketing purposes but are unrelated to genuine Honduran mahogany.

Ironically, although so called African mahogany is not real mahogany, it makes for great sounding drums, but, who knows what genuine mahogany drums would sound like. I am not aware of any drum builders that have used real, genuine, mahogany.

Mahogany: Which one is the real thing? – Woodworkers Source Blog

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Matched Gripper said:
Here’s another informative article I posted previously that clearly distinguishes genuine Honduran mahogany from other woods that are called mahogany for marketing purposes but are unrelated to genuine Honduran mahogany.

Ironically, although so called African mahogany is not real mahogany, it makes for great sounding drums, but, who knows what genuine mahogany drums would sound like. I am not aware of any drum builders that have used real, genuine, mahogany.

Mahogany: Which one is the real thing? – Woodworkers Source Blog

Wood Finishing Tips for Woodworkers
www.woodworkerssource.com
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Craviotto uses Honduran mahogany. Sounds good!
 
Thanks, great article and I got bonus value, since I have a stave sapele drum set.

I'd love to see this same type of analysis for rosewood, spruce and maple.
 
Mcjnic said:
African Mahogany is very light. Very.
Which is interesting because the tone is very dark. Very.
Always thought that pretty cool.
African Mahogany is my favorite drum wood ... ever.
However it's classified, it's just a phenomenal drum wood.
My second favorite is Walnut ... which would end up with another interesting discussion.
Great drums ... that's all I know.
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Walnut is a beautiful wood with beautiful grain. My kitchen is walnut veneer. No drums, though.
 
Think same applies to plies vs. staves? Wondering if there’s difference there also…
 
Matched Gripper said:
Walnut is a beautiful wood with beautiful grain. My kitchen is walnut veneer. No drums, though.
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Inside of my Saturn III’s, walnut is a beautiful wood for shells!
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Matched Gripper said:
Really? Have you heard/played them?

They probably make very few because there are utilization restrictions on Honduran mahogany to avoid endangered species satatus.
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I have owned a snare for 10 years that I love and other musicians that I’ve played with love as well. Has an amazing character on recordings as well, I and others can tell when I’ve used that snare. It cuts and is dark simultaneously, it stands out in the mix, jumps out at you. They seem to make quite a few kits, seems like 20% or so of the Craviotto kits and snares I see online are mahogany or a hybrid kit with mahogany mixed in. There is a kit for sale at Memphis drum shop right now which you can see and hear in a demo video. They charge a 25% up charge for it over maple last I knew.
 
Based on the article, it looks like old 3 ply shells (maybe something before the 1960's) and the Yamaha Rock Tour kits that came out in the mid 2000's are the only mass produced "real mahogany" kits out there.
 
foxy_shazamtastic said:
I have owned a snare for 10 years that I love and other musicians that I’ve played with love as well. Has an amazing character on recordings as well, I and others can tell when I’ve used that snare. It cuts and is dark simultaneously, it stands out in the mix, jumps out at you. They seem to make quite a few kits, seems like 20% or so of the Craviotto kits and snares I see online are mahogany or a hybrid kit with mahogany mixed in. There is a kit for sale at Memphis drum shop right now which you can see and hear in a demo video. They charge a 25% up charge for it over maple last I knew.
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There are also 3 snare drums and one kit available on reverb right now.
 
foxy_shazamtastic said:
I have owned a snare for 10 years that I love and other musicians that I’ve played with love as well. Has an amazing character on recordings as well, I and others can tell when I’ve used that snare. It cuts and is dark simultaneously, it stands out in the mix, jumps out at you. They seem to make quite a few kits, seems like 20% or so of the Craviotto kits and snares I see online are mahogany or a hybrid kit with mahogany mixed in. There is a kit for sale at Memphis drum shop right now which you can see and hear in a demo video. They charge a 25% up charge for it over maple last I knew.
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I don’t know how many genuine mahogany drums or drum sets Craviotto makes, but, it can’t be many. It’s a restricted wood species.

Also, on the Craviotto website, it refers to mahogany as a vintage sound. But, to my knowledge, vintage drums were made with so called African mahogany, not genuine Honduran mahogany.
 
Tommy D said:
Based on the article, it looks like old 3 ply shells (maybe something before the 1960's) and the Yamaha Rock Tour kits that came out in the mid 2000's are the only mass produced "real mahogany" kits out there.
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To my knowledge vintage shells were made with African mahogany, not genuine Honduran mahogany. I seriously doubt Yamaha ever made a drum from genuine mahogany.
 
Matched Gripper said:
To my knowledge vintage shells were made with African mahogany, not genuine Honduran mahogany. I seriously doubt Yamaha ever made a drum from genuine mahogany.
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The Rock Tour Kits were made from Big Leaf Mahogany grown on a plantation, not harvested from wood out in the jungle, so Yamaha was able to skirt around any limited restrictions on harvesting the wood. According to the article posted, Big Leaf Mahogany is considered "real" mahogany.
 
Tommy D said:
The Rock Tour Kits were made from Big Leaf Mahogany grown on a plantation, not harvested from wood out in the jungle, so Yamaha was able to skirt around any limited restrictions on harvesting the wood. According to the article posted, Big Leaf Mahogany is considered "real" mahogany.
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For you guys who are thinking the original RTC...... He is referring to these below that went almost unnoticed in the mid 2000's. ..... Stage Custom hardware with different shells.

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