Your latest cymbal purchase.....

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Furthering my interest in Paiste, I scored this beautiful 60's, 14" Sound Edge bottom in excellent condition. I've ordered a 14" Masters Dark top and cannot wait to hear how they sound together...
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OK, not exactly a purchase but rather a trade in/trade up. My only complete set of matched cymbals is a set of Avedis (14", 18", 19", 21"), and I have a variety of Zildjian K's as well. I absolutely love the Avedis line of cymbals, they have so much warmth and character, they're buttery to play and are quite versatile as well.

That said, I recently acquired a pair of 16" K Light hi hats, and have fallen head over heels for them. Switching back to my 14" Avedis, I was not enjoying their smaller size and significantly higher pitch. I therefore traded them in for a pair of 15" Avedis hats. The pitch is significantly lower, and their open sound is far more smooth and legato than it was with the 14" hats. I just love how lower pitched hats blend with the other cymbals, and sit lower in a mix so as to interfere less with vocals and guitars. My dream set of cymbals is now complete!

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Have you bought the avedis cymbals used or new? If new, how long have you been playing them and did you notice a change in sound after "breaking them in"?
I do have a 18" and a 20", but they're as good as new since I rarely ever play them.
 
marc3k said:
Have you bought the avedis cymbals used or new? If new, how long have you been playing them and did you notice a change in sound after "breaking them in"?
I do have a 18" and a 20", but they're as good as new since I rarely ever play them.
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Bought them all new, but over a period of time. They definitely do change over time and use, though they do retain the characteristics that I liked so much when first trying them out in store. I've said it before, but the main thing with these cymbals is that they vary significantly even among like sizes. As an example, I tried two 18" cymbals when I first started buying these, and one was smooth, buttery and opened up beautifully, while the other was stiff and clangy. I actually tried that same cymbal out again when I acquired these hi hats, and my judgement of it remained the same. Thing is, the one I bought is my favourite crash I've ever played, while the one remaining at the store is a total dog that I wouldn't think twice about passing over. Moral of the story being, they'll change a bit as you play them, but the fundamental character of each cymbal is what it is, and that varies a lot. While I adore the ones I have, I can acknowledge that others have had mixed results. Try before you buy, there are jewels out there!
 
22” Paiste Traditional Light ride arrived today - dead mint condition . It is a beautiful cymbal .
 

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Cool, thanks for the insight! I did buy my 20" in a store and tried it against other cymbals, but this was the only 20" avedis. I did really like it because I was looking for a lighter cymbal. The 18" I have I would consider more a crash, because it opens up so quickly. Later I came across a couple of Agops so I'm currently more into the darker ones, but I need to play those again!
 
Gunnellett said:
Just picked up this bad boy.

Zildjian 23" K Sweet Ride. 3074 grams.
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I have only played this cymbal for a couple of laid back 15 minute sessions due to having recent surgery on my arm but the little I have played has left me impressed. The cymbal responds very well to different sticks and the bell on this particular example is phenomenal. I find myself using the shaft of the stick striking the the cymbal in a parallel fashion for some great texture which I've never really consciously done before. Thumbs up so far here on these K Sweet Rides for sure! Now I haven't jammed with the guys yet so we will have to see if it stands up in a band setting.
 
Finally found a reasonably priced pair of 13" K Custom Dark Hats and I have to say I am suitably impressed. Well dirty, but that has never bothered me. Not sure what the nornal weight range for these is, but thse play a bit lighter than I expected at 800/930, very stiff and crisp, very articulate, ride nicely. Chick sound is maybe half a notch lower than I would like, but seems more sensitive to technique than some, so maybe just a question of getting to knoq them. Overall these seem like great hats for lower volume stuff where I still want to maintain some stick clarity.

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Picked up some 50's Zildjians.

22" Hollow Block large stamp at 2348 gm. Medium thin to thin. Very flexible. Deep, dry and mellow. Can do loud or soft. Best sounding 22 A I've owned yet.
18" late 50's A at 1603 gm. This one is ink stamped as "HEAVY DANCE." Interesting ride/crash. Despite the "heavy" label it's quite lively and bright, articulate, crashes decently. I now understand the label "DANCE." A bit of an umbrella edge. Very clean, no issues, original. I've owned a couple of late 50's rides in the 1580 gm range. I like this one a lot better....more character. Must have sat for decades as my stick marks are breaking into the very old, dusky patina. Full brilliance on the reverse. $45 price tag under the bell. That could have been 70's or 80's.

The 22 was part of an old time, matching "key holed" set of 18,20 rivet ride, 22. Very clean set other than the key holes. All 3 blended almost perfectly together in tone. The 18 (1320) and 20 (1970 gm) were outstanding in their tone and complexity....lathed and hammered different than most of the late 50's I've run across. They had more in common with trans/large stamps than the small stamps. Hated to move them along.....went to the same buyer. But that was my plan all along to get the 22 which I need for my large stamp set. UPDATE: A week later I ran into another 22 Inch HB large stamp (2725 gm) stamped MEDIUM RIDE. Very clean - no issues. That one now goes into my Large Stamp set. The better sounding med thin key holed 22 is getting reunited with the 18 and 20 from the same set. The new owner is very happy he was able to get this one too. I like original sets. The heavier Med Ride fits my set much better than this lighter one. Win Win for both of us.

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Tama CW said:
Picked up some 50's Zildjians.

22" Hollow Block large stamp at 2350 gm. Deep, dry and mellow. Best 22 A I've owned yet.
18" late 50's A at 1620 gm. This one is ink stamped as "HEAVY DANCE." Interesting ride/crash.

The 22 was part of an old time, matching "key holed" set of 18,20 rivet ride, 22. Very clean set other than the key holes. All 3 blended almost perfectly together in tone. The 18 (1320) and 20 (1970 gm) were outstanding in their tone and complexity....lathed and hammered different than most of the late 50's I've run across. They had more in common with trans/large stamps than the small stamps. Hated to move them along. But that was my plan all along to get the 22 which I need for my large stamp set.
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No pictures? You're such a tease!
 
20" Paiste Traditionals Medium heavy ride.

Will have it in my possession soon. I have too many washy 22" rides and wanted something different!
 
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